Two Attorneys Rank the Severity of Trump’s Indictments

September 26, 2023

Guests: Ken White

Ken White is a former federal prosecutor and practicing criminal defense lawyer, the co-host of the Serious Trouble podcast, and the author of The Popehat Report newsletter. David French, the guest host (the episode's second attorney), is a New York Times Opinion columnist and lawyer.

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Guest host David French, himself a lawyer, interviews attorney Ken White about the four criminal cases against Donald Trump: the Georgia RICO prosecution, the federal January 6 case, the Mar-a-Lago classified-documents case, and the Manhattan hush-money indictment. White, a former federal prosecutor turned defense lawyer, assesses each side's strengths and weaknesses — explaining why Georgia's unusually broad RICO statute invites overcharging, defending special counsel Jack Smith's narrower and more careful federal approach, and parsing the intent requirements that shape every case. He calls the documents case the strongest on the merits, while flagging the Florida jury pool and Judge Aileen Cannon as wildcards, and judges Alvin Bragg's Manhattan case the weakest of the four.

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