The Real Danger Within the Democratic Party of a Fundamental Crack-Up

July 9, 2024

Guests: Jamelle Bouie

Jamelle Bouie is a New York Times Opinion columnist and political analyst whose work focuses on American politics and history. In the episode he presents the case against an open/brokered Democratic convention, arguing it would risk a fundamental crack-up of the party.

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Klein, who had just aired a case for an open Democratic convention after Biden's disastrous June debate, invites Jamelle Bouie to make the strongest case against replacing Biden. Bouie argues only Biden can choose to withdraw, and that today's delegates — not old-style party bosses — are ill-equipped for a high-stakes brokered convention, making chaos and a 'fundamental crack-up' of the party the likely outcome; he concedes a fair, orderly-enough process (like a 'mini-primary') could work. On Biden's fitness, Bouie says his judgment rests on the administration's record rather than optics: the staff is well-chosen and nothing has been dropped, though Biden has deteriorated as a communicator. He argues Harris is underrated as a fallback — her 2019 primary collapse predicts little (Reagan also lost primaries), and a post-Dobbs abortion-rights campaign could suit her — while conceding Biden carries irreplaceable institutional weight.

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