Sarah Schulman’s Radical Approach to Conflict, Communication and Change

June 22, 2021

Guests: Sarah Schulman

Sarah Schulman is a novelist, playwright, filmmaker, and activist, author of Conflict Is Not Abuse and Let the Record Show: A History of ACT UP New York; she is an AIDS historian and former ACT UP member.

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Sarah Schulman explains the thesis of her book Conflict Is Not Abuse: people with power mistake conflict for abuse and abuse for conflict, punishing the powerless while protecting themselves. She recounts the AIDS crisis, when the U.S. government and media ignored a plague for years while gay men died, and how ACT UP's disciplined, patient-centered, big-tent organizing won treatment access — a model of effective social change. Applying her thesis to Israel-Palestine, she distinguishes the Israeli occupation — which she frames as abuse — from criticism of Israel, which she frames as legitimate conflict, and reflects on queer politics, communication, and how supremacy cultures weaponize victimhood.

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